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Thank you for your commentary. Why don't we have lunch the next time I am in Chicago and you can ask me these questions directly. Better yet, if you want to interview me by email I am game. Oh, and give me August 29, 2015.
August 29, 2015?!!
Like I said, and I'll wake up with bigger boobs. For 2015, I'd surely have a bad back. - Amanda
That's keeping it in perspective, Scott.
And, Mike - Steve's a big boy, he can defend himself. If you are going to ask about comment moderation, ask Steve. Hell, at least Amanda responds ... how often does Steve? Oh, and I second Scott.
Ms. Chapel,
First of all, in the tradition of some bloggers, thanks for the "link love." I'm flattered. Interesting post and pool you have. Timely, too. I'd cough up $25 and plug in a date for Steve Rubel's Edelman departure (we all leave our employers some time, don't we?), but frankly don't care. While I periodically read MP, Mr. Rubel is a big boy and I don't care who has employed his services. I'm not a big Gawker fan (nothing personal; just don't live in NYC nor care about celebrity lives), but your blog, starting out, seems like a bit of Gawker meets PR. Should be interesting. And, if you'd like to impart some "naked wisdom" about what you perceive of my blog and me, I'm all ears. Isn't pure, honest, transparent feedback and commentary what a lot of this bloging is about? Mike P.S. If you are really doing a "naked journal of PR," why moderate your comments? Just let them all hang out. You can always later delete the poker and other spam comments.
Wow, can't we all just get along? Or focus on things like new biz, validating our practice, etc.? What a pile of Kitten Chow!
Robert,
And just how much validation do you need? Men. - Amanda
Who needs ESPN's Sunday Conversation when I can just leave this browser window open all day.
Scott - now that's an interesting way to direct this discussion, but I'm not sure how much luck you'll have on that route. Mike - this isn't necessarily about the "specific" place that anyone is working. The story here is that there is allegedly this kind of discussion going on in the marketplace. (Amanda, the "allegedly" wasn't directed at you as much as it was a cya on my part)
Tom, you're just pissed that I never asked for pics of you
Hey man, that's why I'm up front about flickr, so no one has to ask - it's all just out there.
I just vomited a little in my mouth.
Hey man, you're the one posting photos of you with other PR bloggers on your blog =)
Boys! There'll be no roughhousing!
Let's get back on topic. :) - Amanda
LOL, me? Validation? Ha! I just meant that some PR pros should be worrying about other things - i.e, like scoring a new account, for example - before promoting office pools that question how long a colleague will last at his or her new digs. Way to take things personally, though - dames, sheesh.
WOW! Amanda. What a way to spend a Sun morning and early p.m. Nice spark of conversation (and imagination) you've started.
Jeremy, Yes Rubel (yes, I know I'm mixing my first and last name references to others) moderates, but his blog isn't about a naked journal (and thank goodness he has no pictures alike Amanda seems to have!). I don't think his moderated comments are needed, either. I'm not defending him. As I said, he's a big boy and can -- or likely won't -- do it himself. Scott: Won't your French TV ancher babe get jealous? -- Mike
OK, here's a new office pool (virtually):
I bet Kami or Andrea could kick the Strumpette's ass. Any takers?
I don't know Andrea, but would place my bets on Kami! Being a mother and with eyes in the back of her head, Amanda could never sneak up on her.
Mike
Scott,
Indeed they could. I am only 114 lbs. I am definitely a girl girl. - Amanda PS Not that I have any desire to go there but I am guessing you were imagining some kinda wrestling ring filled with Jello?
No, of course I was imagining nothing of the sort.
What flavor Jello?
Oh boy... "Baradell" and "imagining" things. We're all in trouble, now.
Welcome to the blogosphere. Nice blog design!
Your biography's very impressive too. Not too sure on the 5ft 4, perky boobs paragraph. PAWS sounds worthwhile though. Did you ever read Spin Bunny?
And I thought folks were scared of the Bad Pitch blog. Welcome to the fray Amanda.
Since I'm really trying hard to avoid working on this PowerPoint presentation, I guess I should go ahead and address the substance of your post.
OK...backtracking... When I got your email with the link to your first post this morning, my initial reaction was ... "cool." I love Gawker and why not bring the same approach to the PR biz? If nothing else, it's a great guilty pleasure. But then I started thinking about it a little more. Since you obviously know from experience how difficult the working world can be -- after all, it's never a fun revelation to realize that you feel like a "whore" -- why would you make it harder on someone like Steve and his co-workers to get through their day? I mean, you go for the Gawker approach, but let's be honest: Steve isn't Jennifer Aniston, and Rick Murray isn't Brad Pitt. Should a regular guy like Steve have to go through the same kind of crap that real stars who make $10 millon a picture do? Is this kind of gossip really your definition of honesty? Hell, everybody knows that agencies are full of politics and personalities and sluts who sleep with the boss. And? You're obviously a good writer. Here's hoping you use your powers for good. Good luck.
Oh you PR types are so catty. Us ad types are never this catty:-)
Oh and personally, I'd love to see Steve stay at Edelman until 2015. That way, I'd get to admire Amanda's back breaking boobs;)
Steve, you are forgetting gravity. By 2015... they'd hardly be the fresh melons you crave. Trust me, perky is the better long-term strategy.
- Amanda
Good point but a little bit of hang can be kind of sexy to some.
out of all the people on the whole darn Intarweb that I thought would comment about bust size, Steve Hall would have to be #1. I'm surprised it took you almost a whole day to show up here. Don't you have like Google Alerts or something set up to keep track of these conversations?
Just wait to see what happens now that Steve's linked your way.
You think he'd link to this? 180 days is what I hear, though ... so put me down for my birthday, October 21 ... and, Amanda, expect photos for my special BDay.
Steve HALL, Jeremy! You have such a one-track mind ;)
Well, I have to live up to my reputation, Tom:-) And you might be shocked to know, I was busy most the day being the perfect husband and father and dutifully visiting my wife's cousin a few towns over for a visit with the cousin's brother my wife hadn't seen since she was two. We played air hockey and all sorts of other G rated family stuff. Don't tell anyone about it though as my rep as a lascivious, drooling letch of a horndog will be ruined:-) And Jeremy, I think Tom meant me about the linking...if I can be so bold to assume so. Certainly Rubel could send an avalanche here but I'm betting he won't.
Hi Amanda,
Sorry to disappoint, but I've not been silent out of some perverse embarrassment, sense of guilt nor sadistic thing that I have in me for winning your Steve pool (btw, I think that's a Super Bowl pool, and not a Steve pool that you've pasted in here). Rather, I just came back from a bloody wonderful Spring Break vacation with my wife and kids in Ponce, Puerto Rico. 90 and sunny every day. and not a pundit in sight. Don't take it personally, but I'm going to try to stay out of your way. At 48 (as you'll discover yourself one day), my body ain't that perky; I don't sleep with my clients or my boss; and I try hard not to hypothesize about what my employees, competitors or clients might be thinking about how people think about them in anything less than a purely professional manner. To be sure, there is plenty of dirt to write about, and Lord knows, someone's gonna read it. The celebs have paparazzi; now, we've got you... our PRapparazzi. Go for it. I wish you luck and as much money as you can make. However, in the interest of setting the record straight, here are a few quick refutes: First, I work at Edelman and for Richard Edelman because the firm, and Richard personally values independent thinking. This isn't the Edelman Kool-Aid; this is fact. Ask my boss -- I am a frickin' loose cannon. But I can say and do here (at Edelman) wihtout risk of being fired what would be total heresy at IPG. I know this to be so, because prior to Edelman I was on the board of Golin/Harris. My point is this: please don't ever sell the Edelman culture short -- especially based on hearsay. Frankly, it's the only thing that keeps me in PR. Second, I give all 10 of my direct reports all the rope they need to do their jobs. I don't hire yes women or men (and five of them are women). I hire people to get a job done. And as my record will certainly attest, I have absolutely no issue holding people accountable for doing their job, and doing it exceptionally well. If you doubt that, just ask Kevin Roberts at Saatchi. I ran his marketing department at Pepsi. Third, to Steve. Who the heck knows if his departure will be related to the size and perkiness of your chest at that particular moment? He could choose to leave tomorrow. Or, he could outlive all of us and retire there. Who cares? Ultimately, we're all judged on one thing: are you creating value for your firm, and for your clients? And as to that point, I can say with total confidence that Edelman has committed to changing the nature and culture of PR. Steve is part of us now, and he's going to help us bring that new model to life. Fourth, your math is wrong. Wall Street owned firms may need $800K from an SVP. We don't -- not by a long shot. And boy, does that make me happy. Finally, I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I"ll take the last date on your square for $25. And once we hit it, I'll donate 100% of the pool's proceeds to the Lance Armstron Foundation in Kevin Olchawa's name. We lost him to cancer earlier this year, but he too personified what Edelman is all about. Let me know where to send the check. Cheers, RWM
Scott,
Not so fast. That's hardly a rousing endorsement. Rick is only publicly standing by the decision he made in hiring Steve a month ago. Well, I hope so. But note it comes with condition: "I have absolutely no issue holding people accountable for doing their job." Bottom line: out of 6 things, Rick kinda addressed 2. That's just makes the odds makers refigure some. We'll see. - Amanda PS I love the wife and kids and Ponce, Puerto Rico part. Nice touch.
Amanda,
Accountability is not a condition saved exclusively for Steve. Unless I missed something in Leadership 101, it (accountability) goes without saying. We're all accountable for getting the job done. Steve is no different than Amy, David, Bron, Jill, John, etc. PS... Where do I send the money for the Steve pool? That's one of the things you didn't address...
Rick, As I commented, "out of 6 things, you kinda addressed 2." I think we agree on accountability. Let see how it works out. Now as to the bet, if you're looking to get in the Hall of Fame, I'd advise against betting on your own team. Regards, Amanda
Now that would be the kind of the Pete Rose might do.
Trust me, I play to win. If we need to shake up the Edelman team or appraoch, we'll do it. As for now, I like our odds. Who are you betting on and why? RWM
Fun stuff. Amanda, we're definitely looking forward to the encore.
Almost done with this damn PowerPoint.
No kidding. You PR people provide hella-good entertainment; a nice sorbet between courses of ad monkey bananas. Will the sophomore jinx set in? We're all eyes.
Dang, not surprisingly I am the first girl to show up and comments, being busy as I was over the weekend caring for my baby boy and husband. And Scott, I did work on Saturday, but I actually worked ;-)
By the way, all of you guys need to change your shirts, they are dripping with drool! Let me address a few things, top to bottom: 1st: Amanda, I admire your willingness to "bare it all" and I am sure it will prove to be popular with the overwhelmingly male blogosphere. 2nd: Steve will rise and fall on the merits of Steve. Who knows, or cares, if he will be fired now or retire 20 years from now, I wish him the best, but wish he would be a little less cocky and more thoughtful. 3rd: There will be no jello fights. I am almost 6-feet tall and it wouldn't be fair. Andrea went to school for conflict resolution at George Mason, so I doubt she'll be interested either. However, I will let her speak for herself. 4th: That brings me to my last point, Steve, I am going for GMU all the way, it is my alma mater and this is pretty heady stuff. Plus, I am a fan of the underdog generally.
Guys: I have a feeling that Amanda may just be spontaneous figment of your collective imaginations (tsk, tsk) to give more oxygon to the relentlessly facinating debate between PR bloggers about PR bloggers and PR blogging.
Yes, I tend to agree with Sean. Do a simple Google search for Amanda Chapel, then read my comment over at John Wagner's blog (cut and paste the link).
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/jwagner14/114339493763364469 Will the real "Amanda" please stand up?
To be clear, I personally don't care whether Amanda is the lithe woman photographed in cotton briefs, a hairy man with holes in his boxer shorts or a room full of monkeys with nothing on whatsoever.
I just find the immediate and full-breathed reaction to this site facinating and telling. For now, it's a great art project regardless of who the artist is.
Oh, that conversation has been discussed - some even doubt it's a woman, and I have my theories on who it might be, or where they might be. Heck, I even used Factiva to search for the name, with nada.
But, it's all fun and games so far...
I also applaud the artist. I mean, we're acting like Jessica Alba just joined the Red Sox.
Dear Amanda,
I knew a transvestite who also was named Amanda. He thought he was witty and funny. I was wondering if it could be you. One advice though, really naughty girls like the one you pretend to be give more to see than 2 shoulders on their bed. You should not worry too much about your silhouette in 2015. You already write like a plastic surgeon. I'm sure you'll find ad-hoc implants. If not, use your blog : it looks and feels the same. Philippe
Is this the kind of response you craft for your clients at Edelman? Richard should be very proud.
Ciao, Amanda
What would all of you do if you found out that Amanda Chapel was actually Helen Thomas?
jeez i dont know what drugs this guy is on (Stevel Rubel) but I have never read so much ass-kissing in a single paragraph as i just experienced. i don't care how long he lasts. just do not ever make me read his drivel again. jeez i need an oxygen tank.
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