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Everything Shel says here is dead on.
Many folks are selling marketing services by calling it "public relations." Public relations, like the blogosphere, is supposed to be about engaging in a two-way flow of information...like, uh, you know...a conversation? It's not about manipulating the channels of communications by creating pretend "character blogs" or making believe that the CEO has a blog when it's really being written by the marketing department. PRSA even has a canon in its Code of Ethics and Professional Standards against corrupting the channels of communication. I wonder how many of the so-called "new media" experts out there who pay PRSA dues have even read the code. We will continue to enjoy richly deserved disdain from audiences who are much smarter than the tactics some of our lesser colleagues have been employing. There seems to be a descent back to the basest form of publicity of an earlier age, only with newer technology decorations on it, that says, in effect, "I don't care what they blog about me, as long as my name gets into the RSS feeds."
I think Shel makes some good points, but as an outsider I detect the corrosive presence of turf wars. Marketing isn't PR, but PR is very definitely a subset of marketing (or specifically of the promotion aspect of marketing) - that doesn't mean it's a lesser discipline. PR should not be comparing itself to or contrasting itself with anything - it should be focussed on proving and celebrating what it can achieve.
Outside of the celebrity arena, I'm not sure that PR has a worse reputation than it did before, but I would argue that the industry needs to acknowledge that it's part of marketing and that the changing media landscape is radically impacting on marketing as a whole and that everybody therein has to adapt to some new realities.
I would argue strongly that PR is NOT a subset of marketing. Marketing is designed to sell product while PR is designed to foster good relations between an organization and its publics, which include government (regulatory and legislative), local communities, activist groups and NGOs, business press, and investment community in addition to customers and consumers. There is definitely a need to coordinate between marketing and PR, but they are independent, serving independent goals.
Apologies for belated response Shel. Unsurprisingly I cannot agree with you.
PR textbooks will have a PR-centric definition of what PR is and isn't and a similar view of "marketing. But the trouble with all that is that marketing is more than just promotion and is definitely not limited to the commercial arena. It comprises everything that is involved in connecting two parties such that one meets the needs of the other. It is not a department and it pervades everything any organisation does ranging from creation all the way through to the aftermath of the "consumption" of said product/service/policy. As such, anything that impacts the perception of that product/service/policy is a subset of marketing. It is an incredibly broad church and you will find no harsher critic of "marketing" than myself, that's what my blog is all about, but the solution lies in cohesiveness not separation. Just as everyone in an organisation has to understand its strategy or purpose, so must everyone also understand that pretty much everything they do is marketing.
I respectfully disagree with the definitions of PR cited here. PR is a marketing strategy designed to sell products, services, ideas and information to a target audience. This is achieved by means of the PR weapons kit, which taps into non-paid media and other strategies to reach a public (including experiential marketing, viral marketing, grassroots marketing and Net-based marketing).
In all of my years in PR, I never considered my work to be fostering good relations between my clients and its publics. I was in the business of building sales, sales leads, web traffic and reputations. Also, you can achieve product placement without paying for it. I've seen it done and I actually did it once (albeit on a small scale). That's the power of great PR!
Phil, if that's what you were doing, you were working in marketing, regardless of what you or your organization may have called it. I suggest you pick up any of the 101 textbooks on PR -- by Cutlip, Seitel, any of 'em. The fact that marketing gets labeled as PR doesn't make it so.
Can't agree with you, Shel. The line between PR and other communication disciplines is not blurring -- it blurred ages ago, and in many creative organizations it overlapped into a new, different and very effective approach to the subject.
That's one reason why I wrote "The New PR" -- I never found any PR textbook to acknowledge today's PR as something vibrant and modern. The antiquated IPR-inspired view of the profession is one for the history books.
Shel, the Thundercats were vile. Lion-O's sword was a phallic fantasy, to say the least.
You're right about the effectiveness of the marketing, which now includes Mattel's venture into CGI direct-to-DVD movies. The first couple were well-produced musicals and decent to watch. The latest, "Barbie in the Twelve Dancing Princesses," was astonishingly enough released at the same time that Mattel rolled out twelve new dolls. And wouldn't you know that out of 12 Princesses, no two of them look alike. My wife and I are bracing for the latest installment, "Barbie and the 49 Brilliant Marketing Executives."
RE: the definition of PR vs. marketing, having had some hand in both, I would not call PR a subset of marketing, but a very closely related cousin (one that would produce mutants if they got too intimate with each other).
I suggest that in larger organizations (those large enough to have separate departments that is) you see the same differences between PR and Marketing that you see between Marketing and Sales. If they don't coordinate and get along, they torpedo the value of each other's programs. Add Comment
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